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Post by JLW on Feb 19, 2011 5:44:19 GMT -5
Hey guys,
I'm a 22-year-old college student living in San Francisco, CA.
I figured I might as well start a field journal.
But first, some background:
I have always been moderately (yet inconsistently) successful with women. I'm not the kind of guy who has never gotten laid. I'm fairly comfortable with talking to females. I'm a decent looking guy.
But I still have a LOT to learn.
So I guess I'll go ahead and start my first FR. Unfortunately, this one is a little bit uneventful, but I'll update this frequently.
Friday night, 2/18/11.
Went out with a bunch of friends in the Sunset District. The Sunset is a fairly deserted area of the city. Not a whole lot going on. We went to the "Avenues Lounge" and hung out for a little while. The only females were a 6-set of girls and I kind of choded out. A 6-set is a bit too much for me to handle at this point.
We eventually went to Chug Pug, which, as the name implies, is your standard run-of-the-mill pub. It was a large population of Asian couples. There really was not a SINGLE all-female set in the entire place.
I went up to one set and chatted with them for a while. I opened by simply saying "Hey guys, how's it goin'?" (no fancy lines or any weird shit like that)
Within the first 30 seconds, one of the girls mentioned how it was their "boyfriend's birthday". I ignored this and basically kept talking. I didn't really initiate any physical contact, but I kept a good conversation going.
This was the only set I opened, because it is a fairly small bar, and there weren't that many single girls to begin with.
Uneventful FR, but maybe something is in store for the next few days (or weeks).
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Post by Two Step on Feb 19, 2011 15:12:21 GMT -5
your gay, ill be in san fran this next month. Hit me up
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Post by jlw on Feb 20, 2011 5:16:43 GMT -5
Went out with a bunch of friends to smaller, chilled out bars in the Mission District. Not many girls to approach, but I still had a blast just laughing with a bunch of friends.
Approach #1: Girl was about to leave the bar. She made eye contact with me about 30 seconds earlier.
She was walking out the door when I clawed her over to me.
Me: Hey, I think you're cute Her: Thanks, I think you're cute too. (smiling) Me: well it looks like you have 2 eyes, a nose, and a mouth, and I'm not too picky. So let's get married (said in a VERY sarcastic manner of course).
I grabbed her by the shoulder and pulled her in.
Her: *confused* uhhhh....I gotta go. Me: NO! You have to stay! We're getting married on a mountain top! Her: Sorry, I'm leaving now with my friends!
This was my first attempt at ever pulling a very direct opener that could easily be considered border-line creepy/rude/weird/whatever. It was obviously a failure but I'm really glad that I went for it 100%. My friends got a HUGE laugh out of it.
I did a few other approaches but nothing really notable. I was spending most of the night hanging out with friends and didn't see that many attractive females that were approachable.
There is only one other notable approach.
Notable Approach #2. In the line for the bathroom:
Me: Hey I think you're cute. Her: Oh, thanks! Me: What's your name? her: Zelda Me: ZELDA!? Her: Yeah, why? Me: As weird as that name is (neg hit) I actually know another Zelda. I got some weird shit to tell you about her. I'll be in my office (aka, the bathroom) but I'll let you know in a minute. Her: Hahaha okay
While I was taking a piss in the bathroom I heard random mumbling and laughing about how funny it was that i referred to the bathroom as my 'office' (i thought the joke was stupid as hell but whatever)
So I walked back up to her.
Me: So my friend Zelda would piss the bed every time she got drunk. It's obvious taht with a name like Zelda, you're fighting an uphill battle with me.
Her: HAHAHA No I don't do that!
Me: Yeah right. Well I guess since you dont seem TOO handicapped, we can get married.
Her: Hahahahah!
Me: blah blah blah where should we get married blah blah blah
Her: blah blah blah blah i'm 27 years old, how old are you?
Me: I'm 22 blah blah blah
Her: blah blah blah you're still a baby
Me: Yeah well I'm glad SOMEONE made it to 27 cuz i'll be lucky to be that old
Her: OUCH! That hurts! I'm not that old. *she makes a stabbing in heart motion*
Me: hahaha you're not so bad though.
I pull her in close and hug her. After this point, for whatever, reason, I just kind of lost focus or interest or both. I'm not sure what happened but I sorta became bored. Who knows why.
Overall, it was a really fun night out with friends. Approaching was not the main priority. I only approached like 4 girls the entire night. But I had a lot of fun.
I'm really glad that I went with the direct opener. I actually REALLY prefer it over the stupid innocuous openers I've been doing recently.
NOTE: I know these openers were blatantly ripped off of Two Step, but I intend to come up with my own routines as I get more experienced.
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Post by Two Step on Feb 21, 2011 16:11:13 GMT -5
you stole my shit ill fucking kill you!
at least your learning shit. Every night you go out you dont want to focus on shit you cant control like getting laid.
Focus on these 2 things. Did i approach and try new things...and did i learn something. If you fulfill those objectives EVERYTIME your out, youll start seeing alot of improvement
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Post by jlw on Feb 22, 2011 1:33:51 GMT -5
Hey Two Step,
Let me know when you're in SF. I'll show you around to some good spots where you'll feel right at home.
As for your other comment: I agree. Getting laid is not really the main priority...I'm more focused on just enjoying the interaction (which I almost always do).
Next weekend I'm going to focus on approaching a LOT more girls (as opposed to only 4 or 5 girls in a night). I normally try to get a minimum of 10, but I was just hanging around with friends having a good time in small, chilled out bars.
As a side note: I feel like the getting married line can definitely come across as creepy if you don't make it very clear that it's a joke. I'm not sure if I'll continue with it.
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Post by Two Step on Feb 23, 2011 12:11:46 GMT -5
HEY LETS GET MARRIED tehehehe...okay im gonna be your trophy husband since your gonna be rich right?
game over
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Post by jlw on Feb 24, 2011 16:29:52 GMT -5
The weekend is fast approaching. I will be sure to give you guys an update of my escapades.
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Post by jlw on Feb 26, 2011 5:05:46 GMT -5
Friday night:
Went out by myself. Started out completely sober (no pre-gaming).
Took the bus to Buckshot (a bar in the Richmond district, a personal favorite of mine)
Show up at the bar by around 10:30. I buy a beer and nervously walk around the bar for a solid 10 minutes.
It's 10:43 now. I think to myself, "Okay, if you don't approach someone by 10:50 PM, you are a total fucking pussy and you are going to die alone."
This was excellent motivation for me. I see a VERY cute girl looking the bar, kind of bored, all by herself. She looks TOTALLY approachable. bored, cute, standing in the middle of the bar. I could tell by her vibe that she was actually LOOKING to get picked up.
But what did I do? I looked at her for a solid 30 seconds (she was facing the other way so she didnt know i was creepin' on her). Eventually, she walked over about 15 feet towards the bar.
I was like, "Okay it's now or never. you gotta approach her now."
Just as i was about to do this, some other guy beat me to the chase. Within 5 minutes, they were making out. Within 15 minutes, they left the bar together.
SDFHJLFDSLHJGHJAKEFJHKDSLHFJLDSHJLKFD. So frustrating. You know how the saying goes, he who hesitates masturbates.
At this point it was 10:47 and I wasn't ready to lose my bet and die alone. Go up to a 3-set of two UG's and an HB 6. I try to talk them up bringing up some stupid (but funny) opener about the deer heads hanging on the wall (there's taxidermied animals all over the bar, it's actually kinda awesome).
The UG closest to me will NOT stop laughing as i try to talk to the rest of the set. They're not receptive at all. I know the UG is laughing AT me. I keep plowing through saying, "Wow, your friend seems to be having a good time" and overall just ignoring the negative energy. This was a good lesson for me. After about a minute, the girls are like "we're here with our boyfriends" I say "Well it looks like you could use another". They say "No, we don't". After a while I kind of lose motivation, it's not like they were that hot anyway.
There were a few other random sets that I approached, probably about 8 in total. Nothing noteworthy. Opened and things just kinda fizzled out for one reason or another.
One noteworthy set was this cute HB 7 and her friend. I opened:
Me: Hey what's up? HB7: Lol not much Me: What's your name? HB7: I'm Jessica! Me: JESSICA?! No way. That was my ex's name. She was a fuckin psycho. You're not a psycho, are you? [Thanks Two Step] HB7: hahhaha no!
The conversation continued on rather well. After a while I lost interest and left the set.
I think a problem that I have is that I expect girls to show more interest and escalate faster. But obviously, this is MY job. I know the telltale signs for sexual interest. But if I'm not getting them IMMEDIATELY, I'll abort the set. I AM THE ONE who needs to charge up the sexual energy. The HB7 that I was talking to was definitely interested, but for some reason, I just got impatient and left! I notice that this is a habit of mine. I give up too fast, even if things aren't going badly!!
Another thing I really struggle with is if I'm approaching a group, and I have my target. How do I isolate my target from the friends? I know this is weird, but I feel kind of BAD about getting the one girl to ditch her friends. I need to get over this. Can someone rationalize this for me? I shouldn't feel bad about approaching a girl who's with a group of friends just because I'm afraid of hurting all the other girls' feelings...
Approached 1 or 2 more sets that were more or less blowouts.
Ran into a dude and a girl. I recognized the guy. He is a fellow student at my school (he's a gay guy). I introduced myself to him and noticed he was with a cute HB7.5.
Long story short I danced a bit with the HB 7.5. I don't think I created enough sexual attraction once again. I was a little nervous, for some reason? I didn't know how to isolate the HB 7.5 from the gay guy.
In the end, I got the HB 7.5's number but I don't have high expectations. I'm glad I asked for it (and got it).
So here are my problems:
1. Expecting the girls to do more work or put forth more effort in the sexual escalation. I AM THE ONE who needs to start it. I need to be the leader. They follow me. Not the other way around. More PHYSICAL escalation on my part.
2. Ejecting from a set because I get impatient because things aren't escalating the way I would like.
3. Not knowing how to handle the friends that HB's are with. Do I ignore them after a while? Do I pull the target away from the group? What do I do?
4. HESITATING. This is a big one.
Good things I did:
1. I approached girls COMPLETELY sober. I drank 3 beers in total, but that was over the course of 3 and a half hours. I had a very mild buzz, but for all intents and purposes, I was practically 100% sober.
2. I gave direct openers to multiple girls (i.e., "You're cute.")
3. I plowed through blowouts. They all ended up fizzling out in the end, but at least I put forth the effort to keep trying.
4. I got a number close. While not very promising, at least it's better than nothing.
5. I'm making slow and steady progress.
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Post by acmra1 on Feb 27, 2011 15:50:11 GMT -5
hey one tip about the last report.. is that jst have a warm up set.. i'm big on rsd and one thing i learned is the idea of momentum.. the first two hours don't really count ur just being social and gettin ur mouth movin and eventually when you see the hot girl you can jst go right in and start spittin words of gold. An u are definitely making progress most people don't ever approach at all ur nites successful if you approached.
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Post by jlw on Feb 27, 2011 17:22:01 GMT -5
Saturday night. Friend's birthday party. Friend bought me five (5) shots of patron in the span of one hour. I had already drank a LOT before that. And I had been buying my own drinks as well.
I didn't puke or anything, but I was nearly blacked out drunk.
I basically ran around this club (called Holy Cow) and hit on random chicks very aggressively.
Nothing really notable. I just did my best to escalate as quickly as possible. It was mostly the alcohol doing the work.
Obviously when you're that drunk, you are VERY uncalibrated. So things didn't go so well. Nothing worse than a sloppy drunk idiot.
I could go into detail with each set, but they're not really that exciting. Plus, I BARELY remember them.
So I'll give you a quick summary of the most notable one:
I said to some girl, "Hey I think you're cute." I grab her and try to put my arm around her
As I'm doing this, her friend fuckin flips out on me and gives me a full-on lecture on how I'm hitting on girls all wrong and need to be less aggressive. I am TRASHED at this point and I just kinda nod my head and say "Okay". I can't believe I actually stood there, listening to her tell me what to do, but I was so drunk that I really didn't care. It was actually hysterical.
So after about this 45-second lecture from her friend, I go back to the initial target and lean in to talk to her and tell her to "Have a nice night" (it was a loud club so I couldn't just say it out in the open). I guess the girl thought I was still trying to hit on her so she FREAKS OUT and physically pushes me away.
I explain to the friend that I wasn't hitting on her anymore and I was just saying my goodbyes.
If I was more sober, I obviously would have handled it very differently. I probably would have just walked away as the friend was lecturing me... That is one of the most bizarre approaches I've ever had.
Either way, I had a blast with friends. Once again, not many approaches, but at least I had a good time.
But i have THE HANGOVER FROM HELL. Haven't experienced anything like this in a while
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Post by jlw on Mar 5, 2011 11:19:38 GMT -5
Aaaarrrrgghhh!
Super out of state last night. Went out with 4 other friends. Two of my male friends who we'll call Mike and Fernando, as well as two girls. My EX GIRLFRIEND WHO I DATED FOR 2.5 YEARS came out with us (not upon my request or my knowledge, obviously) as well as a girl that I had made out with a few weeks before. We'll call the ex Penelope, and the other girl Alexis (god I love making these anmes up)
I was courteous to the ex but didn't go out of my way to talk to her.
I was trying to get with the other girl Alexis but Fernando kept fucking trying to get with her too. The dynamic was shitty since Fernando would not just BACK OFF OF ALEXIS. It was super annoying. Alexis was not super interested anyway since my ex girlfriend was there and she's friends with my ex. For Alexis to do anything remotely sexual with me would result in some MAJOR drama because my ex would most likely get pissed.
At one point some guy grabbed my ex and started hitting on her, and even though I don't really have feelings for her anymore, it put me super out of state. This happened around midnight and I decided it would be best for me to just leave. I had to meet up with my brother who was visiting in town anyway...
I didn't do any approaches. I just was not in the right mindset. The ex girlfriend thing totally threw a wrench in my gears, as well as Fernando totally cockblocking Alexis. Every time I tried to talk to Alexis, Fernando was RIGHT THERE not giving either of us space.
Whatever. Shitty nights happen sometimes.
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Post by jlw on Mar 6, 2011 12:41:06 GMT -5
Went out last night with a bunch of friends. Had a blast on the dance floor and went nuts.
First approach was a girl sitting alone by the dance floor. I told her, "You look bored". When I looked at her, I walked towards her and didn't even hesitate. Most of the time when I approach I'll give a quick look, then think about it for about 5-10 seconds, and then head over. This seemed to work better. She was very surprised. Turns out she was with some dude, but we made friends. I eventually walked away because I didn't want an altercation with the guy.
Second approach was hysterical
Me: Hey, what's up? Her: *girl looks away and ignores me* Me: What's your name? Her: Madison. Me: That was my ex girlfriend's name. She was a psycho. You're not a psycho, are you? Her: Wow, good way to start a conversation (very sarcastic tone)
Girl #2 butts in (the target's friend)
Girl #2 says: Do you actually expect that pickup line to work? Me: Pickup line!? That's not a pickup line...I mean, I am trying to pick her up, but that's not a line. Her: Okay dude whatever you say.
I actually laughed pretty hard at this approach. I haven't gotten a bad blowout like that in a while.
Eventually, a few friends in my social circle came to the bar. I latched onto the cutest one. We danced. I kissed her on the neck after about 5 minutes of us grinding. Started grabbing her thighs, etc.
Continued with harsh escalation. Every once in a while she'd push me away. When she did this, I would walk away and freeze out on her (withdraw attention) and go hit on some other girls. Eventually, things got closer and closer to where I wanted.
I had been kissing her on the neck repeatedly. Kept going for the lips but she'd turn her head. I was literally grabbing her body and trying to kiss her but she just would not go for it.
Finally, last call came around. I got in her car. She drove me home. When she pulled up into my driveway, I grabbed her and kissed her. She FINALLY allowed it. She said she didn't want to kiss me in the bar (okay whatever, weirdo).
We talked for about an hour or so, intermittently making out. I kept going for her vagoo but she would keep pushing my hand away. ASKHJDFSJKLJLKFEJKFNDSKNSNF. Eventually she was on my lap facing towards me cowgirl style with her dress up around her waist. Still no vagoo contact. KDL:FJSKLJKLFEFSHJDHLKDSKLFDS. I hate LMR.
Whatever, at least I finally made out with someone. That was like a 2 week dry spell.
We'll see what comes of this. She's a girl in my social circle who I have no interest in when it comes to any sort of long term relationship. She used to date one of my other friends so it's simply out of the question. Plus I've been told she emotionally destroys guys on a regular basis. A bit of an attention whore.
I have to tread carefully with this one.
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Post by Two Step on Mar 8, 2011 21:11:26 GMT -5
haha girls will usually avoid kissing at the bar alot. Not because they dont want to but because there friends are watching
Social pressure can do crazy things to a girl
Thats where isolating comes in big man. Take that pressure away
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Post by jlw on Mar 16, 2011 14:27:41 GMT -5
So remember that girl in the last post I talked about? Yeah, I touched her funooter. It was Monday night and we were both in school working on a project. She offered to give me a ride to my house. I made out with her in her car when she pulled up to my house.
After a while we went upstairs to my apartment. Getting her to take off each article of clothing was like pulling teeth. After about an hour and a half, we were both down to our underwear. There was pretty heavy making out and fingering.
Every step of the way had LMR. Getting her to come upstairs, taking her bra off, taking her pants off, fingering her, getting her naked, all had pretty considerable resistance, but she caved in for all of them except one: I still couldnt seal the deal.
There was quite a bit of sexual tension, obviously. I was pretty much set on the idea of having sex with her but after a while I just kind of gave up and started to go to sleep. When she noticed that I was going to sleep, she started kissing me again and told me that she was "going to give me the best head of my life."
She was right. Hands down the best blowjob EVARRRR!!!!1!11
So I still haven't had sex with her but at least I copped a BJ. Maybe next time I can bang it out (literally and figuratively lolz)
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Post by MintBerry Crunch on Mar 17, 2011 2:20:02 GMT -5
way to plow thru all the unreceptive hoes man, good work
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