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Post by Lizard on Feb 9, 2011 3:24:53 GMT -5
I have been in this for about 6 months. I have an FR on RSD nation called forging the sword, and 3 others before. www.rsdnation.com/node/166830Anyway, I had major success, 6 months I had othing, no girls, barely talked to them. Now I have almost been layed many times, but fuck up a lot. So I will try to post both up on here and RSD nation. Current status- Kinda Stagnant. I have not been making to mch progress in the last month due to me being a chode. Trying to actually start doing day game bc that is where I see the most amount of hot girls but I am to worried about sinking my rep on campus. Anyway my FR shows a lt of where I'm at. But here is a quick summary- Get most girls thru frat parties. Usually approach, talk, grind, makeout, try to pull (fail every time, bc logistics+friends+frats are far far away), number close, day 2 extract to room (fail here all the time) or day 3 in room (fail here all the time). I have gotten a few girls to my room. Makeouts are easy. But not always lots of hot girls in the frats, also sometimes I'll get there and since all the girls are wasted they are easy to get and all the hotties are taken. Environment- Social Circle game-nonexistant,computer sci major+live in computer sci/eng dorm=absolutely no hot girls, maybe one or two doable. Day game walking thru campus I see lots of hotties. For clubs, so many hot girls, but for some reason I fail miserably there. This site looks great love the articles, hope I can help on the forums and receive advice too.
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Post by Lizard on Feb 13, 2011 6:18:13 GMT -5
@ MassiveRay- ya I will definataly try doin that today or tomorow, problem is finding a quiet room not filled with a ton of people that can listen in, I try to keep pickup on the dl.
Ok so the guy that introd me to CF said I should post up a few past FRs just to get this all up to speed. So here they are one good, one bad, one ok. Most are nite game from the past month or two. Day game is kinda nonexistant for me rite now.
Good-EPIC NIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTT. BEAST MODEEEEEEEEEEE. AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So awesome, holy crap, undescribable awesomeness.
K I take the dudes advice for frats, I bring some cute girls to the frats, get in even though I have no connects. Which allows me to get into a party with hot girls, very sick.
I'm gaming with my wing D K, he is opening sets with some success. I am getting flat out blown the fuck out, I am choding so badly, it sucks. I just am horrible, state kinda low, but I remember that every rejection makes you better, so its all good. then slowly gets better, grind on girl most guys would consider mildly hot, but too skinny+a bit flat (more like a model) for my taste, so I just number close.
I chode about for some more, get rejected again.
Then I cross a point and I'm like what is this shit. I open some girl really oddly, get blown the fuck out, laugh.
Open a girl strong, fuckin beasting, instant attraction, she is hostile as fuck, major push and pull+attraction. Pull to dance floor grind on her. Make out for a while, number close. Try to get her back to my place, she wanted to, tryed to get rid of friends, than friends show up to pull her out, instant bitch shields(if they can get any higher). I try a bit more, but am like fuck it I'm not gonna beg, end up wanting me to take a cab back wit her+friends...very nice.
Get to dorm, this is when I fail, she is showing no IOIs so I kinda shut down, just talk for a bit than say bye.
But it doesn't end, insane shit, friend invites me to afterparty at apartment, I must have had a godlike nimbus because I sit down rite next to the hottest girl there, HB 8.5. Open her, I have the I'm going to fuck you tonite eye contact+voice going while being chill. I was golden, she immediately was extremely into me, major phsical contact, but I just built the tension. I could tell she wanted to appear to be doing this secretly, so her friends around do not think she is a slut, which made it hard to make a hardcore move which I could have easily executed in another situation. So I just continue, major sexual tension now, she number closes me. I am like fuck yes, I just gotta iso, after party end, take same cab back to dorms but with her friends, we r in different dorms, I am the first stop, fucking sucks, could not even makeout bc in front of friends, just cheek kiss.
Analysis- Overall excellently executed, except my endings consistently left me with blue balls and about to be layed. I gotta find out how to get rid of these friends, and in many cases I even make friends with the friends, but they still fucking cockblock me. It must be a college girl thing they are not mature enough. I guess it is time for day 2s, I have only done one ever and it failed, hopefully these succeed.
I think the first girl I could have increased arousal after cab, then made out despite friends, they would fall away and I would be good.
For the second girl it is the same thing, just had to go for it.
I think my problem is I keep caring what others think, I should just push through it despite cockblock friends. Idk, advice would be excellent.
I am semi unhappy that I was chody towards the end, the second girl actually looked really sad that I did not go for it. But at the same time, this was such a good night in terms of growth, getting used to failure and all that shit.
Still insane progress, dudes I went from beginning of semester-no makeouts, no girls even touched me, fucking a nothing chode
end of semester- makeouts with hottest girls, number closes, major arousal, almost fucking
RSD I woud like to say thank you, I can't even say how you have helped me girls, biz, everything (some is confidential, bc then my id would be revealed), and I am only 6 months in. I am going to be ruler of the world in a few years at this rate. So glorious. I have no more doubts, this is the way. I'm on fire.
Ok-Damn, tonight was awesome, first time to a legit club, so crazy. I'll be honest I was pumped, I had a great time, a bit nervous/anxious, so many hot girls and it was a great experience....but I got 0 girls, only the weakest grinding I ever received. And I took Tylers advice which was to have my only goal which is to approach, which I did I probably approached 15-20 girls, most were the hot ones (which is bad, I should go for my quantity of approaches over quality right now) , it is great advice btw. All but 2 rejected me, and those 2 only grinded on me for about 30 sec-1 min, and it was weak grinding.
So my conclusion is my game sucks, and I'm doin somthin wrong. That is what Tyler said in the video.
So first part of night, excited, dancing, went with 2 stunners, both were heavily into me+drunk. I get in, I'm like ready to destroy this place, talk with girls around me on coat check, no hotties, group of fatties liked me+the 2 stunners I brought HB 9s I'd say. Downhill part begins-I'm like time to do the first real approach, go to 2 set introduce myself, hi I'm the sword. respond nicely, I am like awesome, talk for a bit; ask to dance, flat out nah I'm with friends, I'm like its cool, pce out bc it is now awkward. I am fine with it though because I am actually becoming more excited+in state despite the rejection. From this point on all girls are eye fucking me the whole night, which turns out to be a big tease.
I go back to my HB 9 s I brought, I'm like sup, they are dancing with each other, I pull in the hotter one to dance+ask her to dance. She laughs, then is like no thanks. I am confused as shit now. I'm startin to think club game is very different then house party+frat game.
I do a few more approaches, same results, state still up. Probably like 5 approaches, 2 dance floor, 3 bar I think. Dance floor=wanna dance+grab arm or hand. usual response- move closer to friend or leave my premise or ignore or combo. Bar- introduce self, good start, ask to dance- no.
main Problems- too loud-can only yell for like one sentence without akward, so try to go to dance floor fast; not much to talk about; girls can't here me; I am not going in with full intent just half assed; high energy+smiley+crappy intent=dance monkey
2nd part of nite- state begins going stagnant, but still enjoying self a bit. Girls still eye fucking, for some reason. Starting to do chode shit, observer mode, staring at girls for a minute than approaching very indirectly. You can imagine how the last 10 girls went-very crappy, instant shut downs. I did talk to one really hot girl, blond; a bit, normal convo, closed physical gap, very weak non manly touching, still talking then ran out of shit to say I'm like nice meeting you friendly smile+handshake, wtf is that weak shit.
At this point I am like fuck, I just fail at girls, but it was still a sick night. Fun time. I accomplished my goal sorta. To bad I wasted a night full of hot girls, is it like that at clubs all the time?
One note-when you are not getting girls,+ u r sober,+everyone else is drunk = very annoying
Observations: Not enough intent To much dance monkey, but in the sense that I would more just talk+laugh with the girl but do o platonically, I didnt actually dance crazely Girls eye fucking me big time, i still don't know why, I think because my eye contact is excellent+I got swagger(at least before the approach)+I look really fly(I know RSD, looks don't matter but seriously I look like a god, its gotta help me out a bit) When I talk I feel like that is more my territory, I still sucked though I felt odd trying to make moves on girls or escalate, probably because I am way out of my element
Problems: Club way to loud, I have 0 dance game, really really bad=wtf should i do Can't talk loud enough, quietest part of club=me yelling in girls ear, and she heard me kind of Doing what everyone else did, no originality
Bad-I know I should not be hard on myself, but I can't help it some times. Went to a restaurant today, fucking beutiful waitress. I did not approach because I made the rationalization that she isn't serving my table so I can't talk to her when she is working, wtf I could have at least tryed for a number.
Then at the bus stop I see a shit ton of approachable 7s for practice, I don't approach, too tired or whatever rationalizzation. I even made good eye contact with a few, some eye fucked me back.
On the bus, girl next to me very cute, but she is sleeping with headphones, k that is a good excuse, but later she wakes up, starts reading, I am like fuck I should say somthing, then go back to fake reading my book.
Each time I am definately very aroused, so I wanted them but I was being a fucking chode.
Very bad day, I had the opportunites and I had the worst kind of failure, no failure.
It makes me want to leave the game (the small spurts of it that I have at least) and girls and everything and just go far far away. The worst is it just shows how weak I am, I mean I haven't seen another field report full of this kind of failure. And I actually started from a decent place, some friends, social skills, good looks, no girls. My weakness is just lack of will. My only strength is probably long term perceverance which just sucks, all it means is I can be stuck in something for a long time and do it non-intensly. I have been in this for half a year and I can still barely approach except on nights/days that happen to just be my kinda day and I magically have the will to do something, funny thing is those days state means nothing its all about concious will to just do what you really want to do, and for some reason I only have those once in a while. When I do a approach on a really hot chick which has been my favorite and most successful approaches I actually literally feel like I'm jumping off a cliff, my mind clouds with shit tons of fear, then just nothing......Hi.....
I just gotta take those leaps of faith more, easy to say but when I am in that moment I don't do it most of the time. You know what I wanna do I want to take a full week off of all life except the essentials and just do leaps of faith, thats it, or a weekend, no friends, no work, no distractions. I am going to take a trip to the city solo or even just do sarging for a wkend solo, ignore everything else (because that stuff keeps distracting me). Ya, nxt wkend, I hope this starts something good, I can't keep not trying at opportunities, it really kills me, even worse than not having the opportunities or losing at them.
Also for the nite-Well epic fail of a weekend. Went out to a party, not many hot girls, but there were like 2. I pussied out and did not approach. I tried just being social and meet new people but I was feeling too dead, got kinda"pushed" out of every conversation. So I talked with people I already knew, but I am kinda sick of my current friends, I want to form a new group of friends but I have a feeling I have to stop being so chody first. Overall, kinda feeling pretty crappy right now. I havent got any in like forever, because I raised my standards so that I am not just doing desperation bangs. I stopped the drinking I used to do to pre-game before I got into this. Honestly, it is wearing seeing people around me even scoring 6s and 5s and lower even, and also having a great time because they are drunk. Also stopped masturbating to build up some emotional leverage. Kinda frustrating, I am actually pissed off at girls in general right now and my pussy of a self. Problem is my fear overwhelms that anger, and even attraction to girls most of the time I am out in the field, gotta stop being such a zombie.
Such a mindfuck. Next report will be better, no worries
Well those are the 3 from this pt they will all be from the present time.
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Post by Lizard on Feb 13, 2011 6:19:02 GMT -5
Go to frat party, all girls ugly or fat. 2 or 3 ok ones. Open the ok ones aggressively, like pointing at them and saying what the fuck are you doing BR (no real reason, just felt like it) and then pulled them in close and said you werent talking with me. Instantly in to me, touching me, grind a bit, number close. Next girl just was like Hay, BR again I am the Sword I have not met you yet. Talk, grind number. Last girl was dancing with fat friend, try to iso to dance with no go. Whatever.
Night over, kinda too easy, I am sick of eh partie and eh girls, but you just gotta roll with what you got I guess, problem is a lot of the good frats have been havin mixers over the past few wks. I should have tried to extract one of those eh girls for practice but I didn't, extractions from frats=nightmare, girls bring their friends and at young ages (freshmen) they are literally like glue. It is a mess in many ways, the frat dudes have it easy they just extract to upstairs rooms. I considered joining a frat but it is a big time commitment+pricey.
I did learn stuff though, I rly gotta ignore state, just push thru whatever shit I can. Also, BR is rly important+being loud(my throat was done by the end of the nite). And obviously can't give a fuck about what anyone else thinks.
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Post by bo on Feb 13, 2011 8:39:24 GMT -5
nice to read all this, seems there is a lot of work to be done tho im not the best person to give you advice as im not a pua, i found out bout this site and picking up communities only 2 or 3 weeks ago. but ima do it anyways as makeouts have NEVER ben a problem for meand club game is the easiest game imo
lets start with the club game. club game is easy, chicks usually are tipsy so it doesnt matter what u say. just dont ASK them hey do u wanna dance. if they are in a club they are dancing already, just go dance with them. it really doesnt matter what you do or how you dance. as long as ur confident of ur own skills. for example if she looks u in the eyes from a distance u can pull of a really corny illusionary lasso-pull in move. whatever! if u cant dance for shits u just go up to her and open to her hey how u doing / hey im xxx. ofcourse u need to escalate/touch the girl whilst doing it. she wont freak the fuck out and she cant ignore u because you are talking to her and gently touching her. again, if u cant dance just talk to her for a few mins (while escalating) , maybe bob ur head or move ur feet on the rhythm of the music so u dont seem like a complete weirdo. then isolate her. this is the easy part. if u have been talking to her for a few minutes and shes still talking to this is a good signal. this means she is at least interested in you, be it sexual or non-sexual. ask her to go smoke outside / its hot in here lets go outside / blah blah bullshit excuse.
done.
oh and about the dancing game. there is NO 'right' way to dance. as long as ur confident of ur own dancing people will notice and if u explode with energy and confidence maybe people will even copy your moves. dont study your dance moves just move with the rhythm and have fun. dont think about what to do. if u find it hard to convince urself ur a good dancer, a few(!!!) drinks WILL loosen you up a bit.
also, numbers are not that important. u dont need her number to fuck her or to make out with her. u need to focus on isolating her. just start a conversation or interaction. if she is receiving and/or enthousiastic (you will pick up this 'happy' vibe), time to get her the fuck away from her friends and make shit happen
ah and be yourself. dont act like someone u are not. it is okay to be loud but dont act like someone else. it will only complicate things
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Post by Lizard on Feb 19, 2011 2:11:21 GMT -5
bo-thx man, ya I know kinda suck still. Confidence is kinda crap whatevs though just keep going till i make it. And ya I'lll def tryt that in the club nxt time. That was my problem when I went last time I kept asking girls to dance. Ok first post. Was supposed to do day game, saw tons of hot girls-didn't approach made rationalizations. And I beat myself up over it. Double bad. Went to party, all girls ugly, so I am like fine I'll just practice a bit. I grind a few girls, talk a lot, nothin to interesting, was kinda chody, but was no big deal bc no rly hot girls, just chilled wit my friends. Overall pretty bad. I have high AA, after doing virtually no real game for 2 months. I definately took a few steps back here. Never ffun being a chode at a party. Also, I would approach but use the low risk openers that have the high chance of rejection. Tomorow is another wkend nite, and I got a sick party lined up for the nxt 2 days, no excuses. Also, have tons of day game to rip up my dorm with, hopefully I don't get a creeper rep.
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Post by Two Step on Feb 21, 2011 16:08:54 GMT -5
supper in depth dude. This will help you so much
focus on the good over the bad though, it seems like your always focusing on where you mess up
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Post by Lizard on Feb 22, 2011 9:35:32 GMT -5
@two step- supper in depth? , dinner in a deep place, idk what that means, i googled it, not rly anything. Anyway, ya I get that a lot(especially on RSD), I'll definately try to focus on the good. FR Man, wkend-fail, other stuff just failing in general rite now. I saw the hottest girl I have seen for a while in the dining hall a few minutes ago, sitting alone...I did nothing. I am sick of this (don't rly have to express my frustrations, if u r a chode or a past chode u understand if not u probably thinking wtf), I am starting a new challenge, 2 weeks, it is from college flirt, great site, here it is collegeflirt.net/essentials-3-getting-over-approach-anxiety/ , it is great bc it gradually allows me to get over my approach anxiety. I start tomorow, bc today I seriously got too much work, which is killing me...that girl was like a 10. I don't care if nite game sucks as much, day game would be perfectly fine, that is my focus for now. Checklist Already working out-excellent, getting pretty jacked Today-I finish sorting my school shit out, kind of woke up a few days ago, been workig 24 hours a day since, should be in green zone by end of today, then maintenance will be easy Next 4 days-getting finance shit sorted out, kind of private there Next 2 weeks-day game challenge mentioned above Goin for it+when I make challenges most times I complete them which is good. Only problem is people are gonna start thinking I'm the weird reporter for that dating website, I mean 5-10 girls a day over two weeks is like 70 girls that now think u r a reporter for a dating site, kinda sketch. I'm going to modify it and say it is a stat company, and currently they just happen to be doing dating. Btw, I know this post is kinda negative, lol, just how I feel rite now+I know though, happy thoughts.
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Post by Two Step on Feb 23, 2011 12:19:07 GMT -5
on the last part
One thing you should realize is 90% of people dont give a fuck about you. No ones gonna remember you as captain dating website.
Also, just as a little motivation
You can be thought of neutrally by all women right now, and continue to be in the future
Or you can be thought of as weird right now, and become a sexual dynamo in the future
In pickup your investment is your ego, until you let go up it your not gonna see any returns
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Post by haywiz on Feb 23, 2011 15:49:33 GMT -5
on the last part You can be thought of neutrally by all women right now, and continue to be in the future Or you can be thought of as weird right now, and become a sexual dynamo in the future Yeh, im going to have to steal that quote there. lol
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Post by Lizard on Feb 24, 2011 9:07:39 GMT -5
ya nicely worded point, no worries, I have accepted it, I don't really care much I want to get hot girls already.
Ya I was about to start...seriously I'm not bein one of those chodes making excuses. I just currently have been living in the cpu lab for the past few days, idk if I can even go out fri+sat, so much shit...its one of those weeks. But no worries once I can leave this place I will execute the plan. Kinda sucks, well I gotta back to my shit before I am overwhelmed. I will write a post when I begin the 1st day of my challenge.
Thx for the motivation, peace.
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Post by Lizard on Mar 3, 2011 14:55:34 GMT -5
I just finished my last piece of work, YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Done, now I can write an FR, ok past week=me staring at a screen till my eyes turned bloodshot, only thing that happened that was eventful was my friend pulled me out for like 5 hours to go to a club which was like some sick+awesome club.
I was in such chode mode since I had been doin strait work and hadn't slept in days so I looked and felt like a turd. Anyway, I did like 5 approaches; girls were very receptive except one, had 3 small conversations that were ight, kinda awkward+not much to talk about, one girl was even touching me and I was just like uhhhhhh nice too meet you and I walked away bc I ran out of stuff to say, I did not escalate much. Probably was the most akward dude ever that nite, especially since I was still pushin myself to approach. I never drink, friends gave me a drink or 2, it just scrambled my mind, and I would go up to girls just like HI, then be like I am rly tired then run out of stuff and stumble away.
It was a funny night. Then some ok girl I had been spitting my game on (btw alcohol and sleep deprivation it was probably more like just drooling), she is like u wanna dance I'm like ight, she isnt that hot though so after a bit I'm just like bathroom, pce nice meeting you.
Club ends, girl i kinda know is like I'm so drunk lets share a cab, and she continues saying this. But I kinda know her as a friend so it would be weird if I made moves+she isnt that hot. We get out, say bye.
Pop a cafeine pill cpu lab again, lol.
Anyway now that I am not drunk, overburdened by work, or sleep deprived that much I think I will execute the day game thing. I'll post up an FR each day.
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